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 Post subject: Shijin Set bonuses
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:42 am 
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Everything done in LL:C againt Pannon.

MF: Pushan (variance 20) dambarta lvl 1 (101%)

Confirming the 50 TP
Shijin+Smart 829-833
Armas+Smart 829-833

With Ouriyuu (+100tp+
Armas 849-853
Shijin 880-883

=150 TP boost

GM: Pakudac+10 no element (variance 20)

Confirming the 50 ATP
Shijin 520-524
Armas 520-524

With Ouriyuu
Shijin 550-554

=150 ATP boost

Might be a boost for MST, test will be done later though.

Also the damage nullification seems to be a myth or 1% activation at best...

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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:47 pm 
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My shijin is lightning, so that dictated the mobs used in the following tests,

MST - White Beast S2 Gohmon Grants
Orpa Mind used because it has the same 100 MST as Ouriyuu

Shijin + Orpa Mind = 419 - 488
Shijin + Yellow Dragon = 388 - 457

Well close enough to 30, x5 = 150 MST

DFP

Done with Shijin vs Shijin + Ouriyuu since the unit adds no DFP on its own

Test1 Scarred S Go Bajira normal attack, not the charging

Shijin only = 94 - 115
Shijin Set = 80 - 102

Not an ideal difference, but around 15 so x5 = 75 DFP

But since I was looking for a 150 DFP, I went for a second test

Test2 Sleepy Warriors Golmoro

Shijin only = 150 - 179
Shijin set = 137 - 165

Again not a perfect difference but whatever, same results as the first more or less.


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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:20 pm 
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And one more, ATA test

LL S2 Deljaban, 1194 EVP if amesani is to be believed, non-shield enemies, attacks from head-on only

77 Beast FG with Non element Edel = 956 ATA + any bonus shijin may have, unit is LPC so no -ata there. No buff items

First set of 100 shots
set > 90 hits
Shijin only> 86 hits

Second set of 100 shots
Set > 93 hits
Shijin only > 84 hits

Total 91.5% vs 85%

Proposed ata/evp formula from some random thread on psow is

1 - (Target's EVP / ((Character ATA + Weapon ATA) * PA modifier) * 10))

set > 1 - (1194 / 10*ATA) = 91.5%, solve for ata = 1404 ATA very high
shijin only > 1 - (1194 / 10*956) = 87.5%

Well I don't think it's adding 500 ata. However there's pretty steep diminishing returns on ATA, assuming +150ATA like the other set bonuses and using 1106 ATA you would get an 89.3% hit rate. Which is pretty close to 91.5% given the limited sample size. And it's possible Shijin adds some unaccounted for ATA as well.

Anyways, the sample size isn't ideal, and I don't even know how accurate that formula is, but there's a reasonably good chance the set confers ATA.


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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:15 pm 
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For information (rather than random threads): http://psupedia.info/Formulae - it's missing the GAS stuff but should be a good enough basis.

The problem with determining ATA is that to get a value that's close enough to reality by testing you'd need to count your shots for days.

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 Post subject: Re: Shijin Set bonuses
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besides, it is not like ATA really matters anyway.

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